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PostSubject: Red Flags 2: Behaviour Patterns   Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:19 pm

From a self-defence point of view I have been very interested in behaviour patterns. I read a lot of psychology, behaviour science and criminology, so I am often drawn to the seemingly limited way humans often act. Gavin De Becker's shockingly accurate PINS have often revealed to me the methods of manipulators and I have been quick to point them out and act accordingly.

However, in the world of scepticism I am starting to notice the behaviours of troofers, believers etc. Recently Den and I were engaged in a debate on a forum with a conspiracy theorist and it was very interesting to see the responses offered. They were almost scarily accurate to Michael Shermer's descriptions.

So what order does the pattern usually take from your experiences?
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PostSubject: Re: Red Flags 2: Behaviour Patterns   Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:45 pm

Hi Jamie,

missed this post somehow,

in my experience its always 'I have no stance' after they produce 'evidence' of some fringe belief. Then if I say anything that refutes their 'non - stance' it's ad hominems of one sort or another pretty much from then on.

I used to want to bust them for making me really angry, sometimes my temper still bests me, but I genuinely try to understand why they behave as they do, as belief systems is a penchant of mine.

If anyone could recommend me 'good' books to read on the subject of beliefs/behaviour please let me know Wink

I really want to understand why we have PCT's or people absolutely believing they have psychic ability etc, im totally hooked on why and yes I have read Shermers excellent book on why people believe weird things and shall get round to te rest of them.

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PostSubject: Re: Red Flags 2: Behaviour Patterns   Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:38 am

It's a weird one alright.... I constantly see the "Oh yeah" statement. Over and over again.

Or a more recent one was, "wake up!, and I suppose you think that 911 was caused by terrorists??". Bearing in mind I was talking about the sweeter aspartame. A bit of a non-sequiter there me thinks. Which is the usual way to deflect form the troof. Or set up a straw man argument. Yawn... Rolling Eyes

Ironically, they don't like to be asked for proof either. God forbid... I always see them getting irate when you ask. All I wanted was some facts and figures. You'd think I asked for some kind of blood sacrifice.

The girl then brought up the "Illuminati" - aka the new world order that really controls the world, honest. I noticed my reply to that was swiftly deleted from youtube.... muhahaha... "I just said were not living in the matrix luv".

Ah bless... the troofers and g..g...g ghost b.. b.. busters.
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PostSubject: Re: Red Flags 2: Behaviour Patterns   Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:15 am

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The girl then brought up the "Illuminati" - aka the new world order that really controls the world

This is the real turning point for me a conspiracy theorists shortly before I started listening to real historians and criminologists who had problems with the so-called "buffs". My first encounter with the supposed New World Order was via the most outrageous JFK conspiracy theory video I have ever seen, where the driver - yes you read that right - the f***ing driver shot JFK.

The New World Order theory along with paranoia associated with the freemasons - both my grandfathers were masons by the way, so I am probably some sort of pre-programmed agent - is the biggest fantastical, illogical cop-out argument I have ever had the misfortune of hearing. It turns up again and again when the front line arguments fail and actually says more about the holistic state of paranoia the arguer feels than anything else.

Den,

I have read an excellent text book from Rob and Tim's good homeland on Behaviour Science that was kindly lent to me by RBSD maestro Aidan Caroll's wife, but I have yet to read any book that focuses on this topic better than Shermer's excellent "Why People Believe Weird Things".
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PostSubject: Re: Red Flags 2: Behaviour Patterns   Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:44 pm

Cheers Jamie,

I may do my Phd on the subject, interesting if nothing else,

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