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 Can you be a Skeptic, and still believe in the existence of God?

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Den's earlier post got me thinking. Smile

Can you be a Skeptic, and still believe in the existence of God? A being that cannot be measured by any science, and is immune to our physical and universal laws.

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You can if your thinking brings you to a logical conclusion God exists.

So much truth out there......

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British Sceptic wrote:
You can if your thinking brings you to a logical conclusion God exists.

So much truth out there......

I often see skeptics tackle the creationists - which is fair enough of course, as there beliefs are just plain barmy.

But there definitely seems to be a group within the skeptic movement that stays well away form the whole "god issue", even though many of them profess to be atheists. I suspect it's for the reason I mentioned earlier, about God being an entity that lives, and is not bound by our laws (as we know them anyway).
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The agnosticmovement works from the premise that you cannot prove God does not exist so...........

where does the madness end though?

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PostSubject: Re: Can you be a Skeptic, and still believe in the existence of God?   Can you be a Skeptic, and still believe in the existence of God? Icon_minitimeThu Aug 14, 2008 11:09 am

British Sceptic wrote:
The agnosticmovement works from the premise that you cannot prove God does not exist so...........

where does the madness end though?

regards,

Den.

My agnotism is a little more basic than that - fundamental or literal if you want ;-) It is a bit like my scepticism. I don't naturally lean towards science. In fact, science and maths were my worst subjects at school. It is only as I grew up and started to respect reason and recognize charlatanism that I realized the true importance of science.

So my agnotism literally translates as a "doesn't know whether God exists" - and is very sceptical whether anyone else does. When I am being philosophical I can accept God as a metaphorical conduit for a moral society or an appreciation for the natural world. This is born out of my diplomatic idea that the world celebrated the same God in different ways. Ultimately, however, my default position is to show me irrefutable proof or give me an experience that completely verifies the actual existance of a supernatural entity. I have yet to see evidence that this has been done. I like Shermer's position "that's wonderful, now show me proof".

Likewise my scepticism can literally be translated to the original Greek concept of "thinking". I am more than a doubter, I am an individualist - and I don't like the political definition that is given in Wikipedia either ;-)
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