http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion

read them, compare them and gather your own conclusions

Regards,

Den.

Youre right Jamie, this is a scientology thread!

As for credible, I have troofers , ghostbusters, homeopaths etc that say this and that are scientifically proven cos we say so! Anecdotal!

Yet when Iuse a wiki link they discredit the evidence, mmmmmmm

BTW a survey showed that wikipedia fared as well as encyclopaedia britannica for reference reliabilty, standard and overall quality.

So be warned before you shell out a fortune for that one!

Regards,

Den.

I actually do use Wiki more than any other resource on the 'net and I heard that report too. However, I have read a lot of propaganda and uneducated nonsense on there.

Could you recommend a reputable source?

I heard theres a sceptic encyclopaedia on JREF site for free but cant find it

Cheers,

Den

There is a sceptical wiki, then there is the Skeptic's Dictionary online (and in book form). I guess we could argue that there is a bias in these resources. There is also Encarter and numerous objective religious study websites. My point is that Wiki is a pretty good starting place, but it would also be good to find several other objective sources to get an overall picture.

Absolutely agree Jamie, but as you know a forum is not a peer reviewed journal.

We impart mainly anecdotal evidence in debate and if we wish to fortify it supply evidence, then if the other person does not accept this they look for their source of evidence and show their cards and so on.

Scientific debate.

I really do not want toreduce this forum to adding a supporting link of evidence for every sentence we write.

I understand you but this is a place of discussion and we must seek our own evidence as well as supplying some occasional evidence on here.

I own the skeptic dictionary, have dictionaries, access on line encyclopedias and wikis etc, but im sure we do not want bogging down unless we are debating seriously aginst a believer of sat holocaust denial or 9/11 conspiracy.

Then shall we bring all guns blazing?

Regards,

Den.

Understood and I agree. I only discussed other sources because you asked me to recommend them

Hi Jamie,

just ignore my last comments, too much on my plate, reaching burnout and need a break, too much heat off believers gettig to me at moment, please accept my apologies,

Den.

I understand completely. You will notice that I stopped posting on that 9/11 thread once they started going down the "everything is a conspiracy" head wanking path.

Cheers

I know the link to that is on the forum somewhere and when I get time shall have a look, get bit evidence together and debunk it but........

believers, is it worth still trying to debunk it or should I stick with trying to figure out why they believe it?

Anyway back to business, promote the science, show the evidence, what more can you do?

Regards,

Den.

http://www.martialedge.net/forum/political,-social,-and-cultural-dimensions-/9%1011%11-what-the-architects-say/

If you look at my posts, half of what I did was provide links to evidence.

Jamie Clubb
"and the origins of all the world's major religions. You will see a lot "cult-like" activity at the beginning, including being secretive"
Hi All,
I'm the newie here so hope l don't mess up too badly.
I'm a Buddhist,l'm not sure if Buddhism counts as a major religion,but there is absolutely nothing secretive about B.
If this thing works and anybody is interested l'm prepared to elaborate on this.
Thanks Frank

Hi frank,

welcome,

you may want to post an intro about yourself,

please do elaborate on buddhism, all contributions of a positive and constructive nature are welcome,

Den.